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but you know, the trump criminal trial and and the insane supreme court arguments weren't the only thing that occurred last week, because the news never stops, it's incessant, um, it's like uh again.
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Because trump is like um.
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He is like the Dave Chappelle skit with Charlie Murphy I brought this up a number of times where Charlie Murphy was talking about Rick James and, like you know, grinding his feet in people's couch and smacking people in the club.
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Trump is a habitual line stepper.
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He like wherever there is a line he has to step wherever there's a white couch, trump is going to rub his muddy boots onto it pretty much I'm donald trump bitch f your couch, yeah, we've seen we've dropped so many f-bombs that we're gonna get get banned.
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Well, that's why I said F.
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Yeah, good job there, but no.
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So last week, Arizona prosecutors indicted 18 co-conspirators in the fake elector plot to steal the 2020 election.
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That included all of the fake electors along with and these are fun, fun facts here Rudy.
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Giuliani got his ass again, mark meadows.
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I'm glad someone else is trying to hold him accountable, because we don't know how georgia is gonna go um john eastman, I'm glad like he's been disbarred so he's gonna.
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He's also facing criminal so he can't represent himself I thought him and rudy were to have like a reciprocal thing.
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I love this for them.
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They can represent each other.
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They can't.
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So sad.
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That's funny.
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This is a new one, boris Epstein.
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He's finally been indicted in a jurisdiction for his role in the fake elector plot.
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I was wondering when someone was going to get around to him.
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Yeah, when I saw his name and it was like, wow, okay, I thought he had fell into the background, but no, no, uh, jenna ellis managed to make her way into this indictment.
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Uh, michael roman, who was key in coordinating with the fake electors.
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He's also been indicted here, as he was in georgia.
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Uh, kelly ward, which is the former head of the republican party love that for her yeah, she.
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She was irate, uh, a couple of years ago about people not being locked up for cheating to steal the 2020 election.
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Here we go, baby here we are.
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Kelly ward is, she is a piece of work.
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That woman is something else and she is, she is.
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She's gonna die on that hill, you know happy for her.
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She got her wish.
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They they're locking them up, kelly, as you suggested.
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And then my personal favorite of all the people indicted in arizona over the course of the past week, here is christina bob.
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Yeah, so this is why.
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This is why christina.
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She's no longer representing trump.
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He had to put some distance there well, actually it's funny you say that head of election integrity well, darn it, you beat me to the joke.
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yes, the, the new head of the election integrity at the rnc has been indicted for a lack of integrity from cheating in the 2020 election.
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No, but the reason why she had to get the boot from Trump's legal team, carol, is because, well, do you remember Evan Corcoran?
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By any chance, does that name sound familiar to you?
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Well, that was one of Trump's lawyers in the classified documents case in Florida, and he had to get the boot from trump's legal team because he got crime fraud accepted, because they signed off on those documents saying that all of the classified documents have been returned to the fbi voluntarily.
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And then when, like the fbi, raided mar-a-lago and they were like, oh damn, here go these documents.
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You told a lie bro make attorneys, get attorneys yes, well, uh well, christina bob was one of the well, she was the lawyer who signed off on the document as well.
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She ended that envelope over like yeah, so yeah, she was in the crosshairs of the department of justice for quite a while here, and at the time I just like what it's.
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How long has it been?
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Has it been a year and a half?
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It's been a long time.
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It was August.
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Yeah, it was August.
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Like uh, what 2022?
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October.
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Yeah, I think in October was when we got news of this arrangement where, um, uh, corcoran didn't want to put his name on that and then Christina Bob did, or maybe it was the other way.
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Look, it's all right, it's been a long time, a long time ago.
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My memory is fading slightly, I have to look that up, but one of them put their names on that and I was like, oh, the second they did that.
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Huh, somebody's about to get their own lawyers.
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And here we are, christina bob getting getting indicted for something totally separate, because that's how many crimes you commit when you're trump's lawyer but you know what's so crazy about christina bob and this is why I think she's like a hair smarter than uh is that, yes, is because christina, she had them like signed like that that she wouldn't be like held accountable like are you sure?
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Are you sure I'm signing for this?
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I'm giving this over there, everything's copacetic.
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She put a caveat in the language that said, to the best of my knowledge, as opposed to.
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We guarantee that all the documents have been yes and wording is everything, and that was a smart move on her, and then she just kind of fell into the background.
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It's like I'm just going to do news.
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Well, yeah, I mean, isn't that?
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I think that's how she got the job right her on newsmax rbn.
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Uh, one of those one of those.
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One of those.
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Okay, here's the deal audience.
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All right, so you know christina bob and you know alina haba.
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How do you tell them apart?
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Right, and that's like.
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That is the game we're constantly playing.
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But, like, of course, my favorite.
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One of them has been indicted in in Arizona.
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Totally and find a million dollars.
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But no, that's the other one, that's.
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Alina Habba.
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Yeah, so my favorite Alina Habba.
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fun fact is the detail that, like initially, she was representing parking garages yeah and that and that level of legal expertise is how she ended up losing trump half a billion dollars well, don't forget that she had to pay like twenty thirty thousand dollars to her only black employee at the law firm for throwing the n-word around in her office so she was perfect for the trump legal team and she also had to pay that one million dollar settlement.
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Um for well, that that bogus and uh, that bogus lawsuit against hillary clinton against hillary and pete schrock and a number of other people, where the judge not only threw that out but was like, hey man, this was ridiculous, pay up guys, but yeah.
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So I'd just like to point out how insane it is.
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Just the number of lawyers that have worked for Trump, that have been indicted over the course of these past, what's it been?
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almost 10 years now eight, nine years it's just insane and I just I can't believe only hearing about the ones that haven't fallen outside the statute of limitations right, but how many of the lawyers like uh takapina, who actually had a pretty prestigious career, like he represented Jay-Z, he represented all of these like celebrities and stuff who have literally willingly put their careers and reputations on the line to get involved into Trump's legal mess?
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And Takapina, like when the Stormy daniel story first broke, he was like oh yeah, this is bad for him, like this is completely different than the guy takes up his case, like the cognitive dissonance and how they're short-term, it's.
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It's freaking insane and it's like wow yeah, and they have to forget everything they previously said, for the grift is crazy yeah, like, and that they have said these things on camera, on tape, in interviews, and then, literally a year later, and they're like the complete opposite and there's no pushback from maga, no pushback from as if that never existed, knowing that this evidence and that this confirmation and backing up is out there.
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And they have no, they just go on like okay yeah, they all become bill barr.
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Even bill barr is like trump should be, no, be nowhere near the white house.
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And then they're like all right, well, are you going to vote for them?
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Yes, what?
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Because not only do they.
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After they get in trouble they're like well, now I'm going to not support them.
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And then they slink back eventually to always it's, it's just wild.
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Well, you know what, though that that kind of worries me, because where they were, like a year or two ago and like during the january 6th investigation and the hearings and everything and the things that they were saying.
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So, for those that are backtracking especially someone like bill barr, who is very shrewd, he's not a dumb ass um, he's not dumb by any means, but it lends me to believe that they feel like there is a real chance that Trump will be in the White House.
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Yeah, and they are trying to see why and that that worries me because I'm wondering.
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And they're scared that he's going to know that we don't know.
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They're scared that he's going to get presidential immunity and have them assassinated.
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And if only there was some way to not vote for him.
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Well, that's what.
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Joe Biden's for.
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I think.
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But I think that that is something that we should pay more attention to, that.
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The people that are kind of turning on their heels and backtracking a little bit.
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Why are they doing it Like, is there something that they're privy to that we're not?
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Is there something that they know?
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They're worried he might win?
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So okay, look, once it became fairly obvious that he was going to wrap up the Republican nomination, it's basically a coin flip for him to become president.
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They don't need to know.
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Anything is in the works about the potential for him winning he's the nominee.
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He's got a shot in the works.
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About the potential for him winning he's the nominee, he's got a shot.
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So everybody has to cya, as you so eloquently put it, and and get their ducks in a row and and get back on the bandwagon.
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Because look and we talk about this a couple of times but one of the first things hitler did when he came to power, it wasn't taking out opponents from the other party, it was cleaning house in his own party exactly, that's exactly it, the brown shirts was right there and they helped him get elected.
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And then, as soon as he had power or get appointed, and as soon as he had power, he went and got them brown shirts up out of there because they were a threat to his power and then he went on from there.
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Um so, and they they're his brown shirts.
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So one of the things about these indictments in Arizona is elections have consequences, because I know a lot of people are like man.
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It's awfully late in the game for Arizona to be in indicted in the fake electors investigation didn't start until 2023 because the Arizona attorney general prior to Chris Mays was a Republican who said I ain't going to look into this.
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So once Chris Mays won, she was like all right, sure, my office will look into this, we'll do our due diligence.
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And in a year and a half what month is this?
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And less than a year and a half what month is this?
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And less than a year and a half, less than 18 months she got indictments out the door and ready to go.
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Now a lot of people are going to ask hey, if she indicted all these, you know, fake electors and the co-conspirators higher up the chain, why didn't she indict trump?
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And I have a theory on that, and my theory is because it's so close to the Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity and whatever the decision is, the way the arguments, the way the decision will be worded about, you know what is considered immune acts or presidential acts and what is considered private uh, she'll be able to tailor her indictment in a way that can navigate, uh, the supreme court's decision on presidential immunity so that indictment still stands, or at least that's my theory on it.
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Because, like, if you're indicting alina haba and john Eastman and Mike Roman, these people were right there with Trump, working with Trump, and you have enough like Trump is literally an unindicted co-conspirator any indictment.
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The only reason you're holding off on that, obviously for the well, obviously because indicting him could create some delay, given the Supreme Court decision, but also you want your indictment to stick right yeah, well, yeah, I mean a prosecutor, a DA.
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They're going to take cases.
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They know they can win like they're not in the business of like frivolously filing you know cases and and going after people.
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It's like, okay, I know I can win this, or they don't think they can win.
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Okay, we didn't have enough evidence.
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I mean that's kind of the the.
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This was kind of the argument the justice department used in the supreme court that that prosecutors don't do that.
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They're like this yeah, basically like there's so many protections in the legal system that even for a rogue prosecutor it'd be difficult to go after a former president.
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But no, the the walking into a bar Joe Carroll, that would be a former president, a pecker and a porn star.
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Walk into a bar.
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Former president, a pecker and a porn star walking to a bar yeah.
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Anyway.
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Yeah, I just think that, like so, part of the reason Jack Smith didn't invite invite didn't indict any of Trump's co-conspirators in the.
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January 6th, or I guess the greater plot to seal the 2020 election is because, if he had done so, with with all of the numerous co-defendants, uh, all these delays would have affected that as well and and made it nigh impossible, even without the Supreme court, uh, to get this case to take.
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We'll get this trial to take place before the election.
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Well, arizona did the opposite, right?
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They left out Trump in order to get this trial the rest of the it's off the ground because if you indict trump then that's automatically going to end in a delay and then you won't get to hold any of these people responsible.
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But I guess another factor, another factor that is important about this indictment in arizona is these state charges.
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They can't be pardoned.
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So they're going to have a lot of incentive to cooperate because even if trump wins, he's not going to be able to pardon them, like if he gets indicted in arizona.
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Sure he'll use the powers of the federal government to stay out of jail or whatever, but the rest of these dudes they shit out of luck.
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Um and trump can't save them.
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So we're gonna have the opportunity for, you know, trump's lawyers to flip mike roman to flip, although I guess um, given his luck with with the georgia prosecution in in making in an investigation into the investigator, maybe he's got a shot of trying to hold out for hope there.
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But rudy giuliani, he's about to be broke.
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He's not going to have any opportunity to really defend himself with a you know, high-powered legal firm here.
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And mark meadows, like you know, he almost skated with jack smith because it appears as jack's, as though jack smith has some kind of cooperation agreement with him or at least on prosecution in in exchange for some of his testimony.
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But now he's not, he's not.
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But now he's not going to skate, he's going to have to sign a prosecution agreement in Arizona to stay out of jail.
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He just has to.
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Epstein, he, I'm glad he's going to jail, I just like his answer.
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I'm tired of seeing his face.
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I'm tired of seeing him.
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Well, I guess he hasn't been doing the rounds on TV here lately, but I'm glad prosecutors are finally going after some of the higher ups.
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I'm glad we're seeing consequences.
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I know it took a while but, as I told y'all like, just hang in there, consequences are coming.
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You should have listened to your boy, because I told you it was going to get here.
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I told look, I hate to be the hate to be hillary clinton, where I'm right about everything.
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But I talked about the fake electors eventually being subject to indictment by all these states before we ever had a jack smith indictment of trump for january 6th.
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But here we are.
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Here we are that's making fun of my.
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Oh wait, you can all see yes it's a visual medium, carol.
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It's no longer an audio only podcast.
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I had to put on pants we weren't going to say it out loud, but yes, carol showed up for the podcast.
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In post 2020 fashion sans pants, it's really hot.
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We don't have AC in alright.
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What is the female analog for Jeffrey alright?
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Jessica Tubin I was going to say.
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Jeffrey, all right, jessica Toobin, yeah.
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I was going to say Jennifer, but Jessica.
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Okay, jeff, I wasn't pleasuring myself.
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I'm just not wearing pants.
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Well, that's unfortunate, don't you think that's what our audience signed up for?
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All right, so we've got a few, a couple of lighter stories, although they're equally as frustrating as some of the previous developments here, with the new york times journalist, uh eli stokels, detailing a piece that the paper's editor, ag salzberger, and other top brass directed the outlet to purposefully cover, biden in a negative light because he is yet to sit down for an exclusive interview with the New York Times during his administration.
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Isn't it cute how they're like willing to help end democracy over a little personal.
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I am not surprised at all.
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The New York Times has been a fascist enabling adjacent media outlet since the fricking thirties, maybe even before that, but the thirties is since I know of.
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It's a it's been up and down.
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Friend of democracy.
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I mean I wouldn't go that far, but they, they have their moments where you, I mean, there are journalists that I do like, who do really good editorials and whatnot, so I'm not going to throw them out with the bathwater with the whole freaking paper.
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You know they're the shining lights in that.
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You know, just like the issues that we have with.
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You know Katie Turr and Kristen Welker on MSNBC, but then we have Nicole Wallace and then we have Rachel Maddow, so it's separating that, however, but there Look, we've been talking about this for years now.
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There's something wrong with the New York Times and it's so obvious it's been so obvious here for at least three years that there's a whole new york times pitch bot account whose entire existence is just making fun of the headlines from the new york times.
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And it's so bad that some of the headlines he's like damn, I wish I had come out with that.
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They beat me.
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The pitch bot is like the new york times beat me to satire, except it's real, like one of the, and one of the worst examples is is the one where it was like um, you know two imperfect candidates on abortion, and we're talking about biden and trump.
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Dude, biden is trying to get bring more access to abortion to women in the united states.
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Trump is the one who appointed them up, took it away.
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Tommy Topherville held up military appointments forever because of the Biden administration's policies protecting reproductive health care for women in the military.
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So what?
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The F word?
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Yes, word yes, doesn't drive you crazy and just this constant equating of like or equivocating between, yes, the insane person on the one hand, we don't like the way joe biden eats ice cream, but on the other, trump stage like wait, was it?
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a million times.
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Remember, after what was it that had happened in there?
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Like Hawking Jeffries lied, and this was after.
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And he was like oh, when, oh, when Mike Johnson Acquiesce that's like the best word that I can say like for him to funding for Ukraine.
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And then it was like, oh, that he was some kind of freaking hero.
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And then they were like, oh, hawking jeffries um, asked if he had the votes and he lied and it's like this is what you're going with.
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No, that was new york times and it was like this is yeah yes, they basically headlined that.
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yeah, they painted him out as like fdr or something and I was like what?
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The dude who's been blocking the a the entire, the entire time?
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He's now like, okay, get out of here with this.
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But yes, and look, the problem is is that we all know that something was wrong and then to have someone come out on the record and confirm it, just it makes it all the more embarrassing.
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I guess it'd been better off if they had just admitted it from the get-go, but the fact that they're like again, our democracy is on the line and they're choosing to ignore the terrorist who's threatened to have them killed should he ever get back in the office?
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and to just do this over a grudge because president biden hadn't sent down for interviews bananas, and then I can't imagine how damn bad an interview like seriously no, how, how damn I can't like well, maybe if they prove that no, I mean no one can prove enough loyalty to him but maybe if they prove that they're not going to cover him in any way, that um scrutinizes him or says negative things about him, they will completely take out of context and twist everything that he says for their own purposes, then maybe he will sit down for an interview with you.
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I mean, it seems like they're bending over backwards for it, Okay.
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I was going to put a finger, but I'm not.
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No, please don't.
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This is not the time or the place.
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But can you imagine I'm not.
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Can you imagine how damn bad the new york times must have been when by you showed up for the interview on the stern show?
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I bet they was like dog right in in new york he showed up to new york, but not for you not
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for you guys, and then, of course, I think that's awesome because I've been a stern fan for a really really long time and his interviews are pretty awesome and I think it's great that pota sat down with howard um.
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Howard is really good with um, just just getting to the nitty-gritty and you know people love to just like they do with with biden.
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They're like, oh well, he said this will be a racial jungle.
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I was like you got anything like more recent than 40 years ago.
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Can we tackle that real?
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Can I?
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Can I dispose of that nonsense quickly, Like if you go back and read the entirety of what Biden was saying when he made the racial jungle comment?
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That wasn't a comment about black people, that was a comment about white people being, you know, white kids in some of these schools and these white teachers being unable to handle desegregation.
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That that was it.
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It was like he don't trust white people to handle this correctly he was right not to trust y'all.
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No, offense white people you.
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You do, okay, every rare occasion, but at the time no, and biden was absolutely right about, because again we had to have the national guard show up to let these kids in the school in some instances, but that also goes to the conversation that we had when we were talking about the 94 crime bill and then you were like no, my parents were all for it because they were like this crime is and 70 percent of the Congressional Black Caucus was behind it, because they were like we need to do something.
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And it was him listening to.
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So it was like taking out of the context and it made me look back at my own opinion and looking into it to see where your parents were coming from.
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Oh yeah, so my parents didn't really talk about politics much in the nineties like that, or at least not with me present.
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But one of the things that did come up was that crime bill Cause.
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Like you know my mother, my grandmother they were like, yeah, clean up our streets.
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Yeah, yeah I mean.
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Another thing like that came up too.
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This is totally off topic, but like the health care that the Clinton Hillary Clinton was working towards, like they were in favor of that too.
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But look, the idea that that was a handout, like once you start talking in terms of handout, like that killed momentum for that thing.
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But yeah, but no.
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Back to Stern and the interview.
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It was.
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It was fairly I found it to be fairly compelling and a lot of people on the right, I'm sure, are going to make comments about how it was a softball interview for Biden.
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Well, stern also gave a softball interview to Trump, where trump said a bunch of raunchy and embarrassing things and I listened to those interviews because I have been, you know, a fan for a long time and so those interviews I distinctly remember I'd been, I would listen, how long ago was it?