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May 2, 2024

Dems Keep Winning: Here's How That's Bad For The NYT

Dems Keep Winning: Here's How That's Bad For The NYT

Discover the intricacies of political maneuvers as we unpack the Arizona indictment of 18 individuals tied to the 2020 fake elector scheme, casting an unforgiving spotlight on key players like Rudy Giuliani and Mark Meadows. This episode takes you behind the scenes of this seismic legal event, examining the potential fallout for these political heavyweights. Hear my take on the irony of Christina Bob, charged for actions that contradict her role as head of election integrity, and how the reshuffling of Trump's legal team signals a shifting landscape in electoral politics.

This week's conversation also cuts through the legal labyrinth surrounding Trump's attorneys. We scrutinize the calculated legal wordplay of Christina Bob, contrast Alina Habba's journey from parking disputes to the political spotlight, and ponder the enigmatic loyalty of Joe Tacopina. As we dissect the magnetic pull Trump seems to exert on his legal counsel, we raise the alarm about the broader implications of their alignment with the former president, and what it could mean for the integrity of America's legal system.

Finally, we critique The New York Times' headlines, contrasting media portrayal of political figures with the real-world consequences of reporting. We relive the highs and lows of the White House Correspondents' Dinner, admiring Biden's finesse in blending humor with gravitas. As November's pivotal elections loom, we underscore the urgency for voter engagement, leaving you with a call to arms for democracy's defense. Join us as we navigate the converging paths of politics, law, and media in an era where the stakes have never been higher.

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Chapters

00:05 - Trump's Legal Troubles and Indictments

04:27 - Trump's Lawyers Indictments and Consequences

20:05 - Issues With New York Times Headlines

25:59 - White House Correspondents Dinner Highlights

33:58 - White House Correspondents Dinner Threat

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but you know, the trump criminal trial and and the insane supreme court arguments weren't the only thing that occurred last week, because the news never stops, it's incessant, um, it's like uh again.

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Because trump is like um.

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He is like the Dave Chappelle skit with Charlie Murphy I brought this up a number of times where Charlie Murphy was talking about Rick James and, like you know, grinding his feet in people's couch and smacking people in the club.

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Trump is a habitual line stepper.

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He like wherever there is a line he has to step wherever there's a white couch, trump is going to rub his muddy boots onto it pretty much I'm donald trump bitch f your couch, yeah, we've seen we've dropped so many f-bombs that we're gonna get get banned.

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Well, that's why I said F.

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Yeah, good job there, but no.

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So last week, Arizona prosecutors indicted 18 co-conspirators in the fake elector plot to steal the 2020 election.

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That included all of the fake electors along with and these are fun, fun facts here Rudy.

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Giuliani got his ass again, mark meadows.

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I'm glad someone else is trying to hold him accountable, because we don't know how georgia is gonna go um john eastman, I'm glad like he's been disbarred so he's gonna.

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He's also facing criminal so he can't represent himself I thought him and rudy were to have like a reciprocal thing.

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I love this for them.

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They can represent each other.

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They can't.

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So sad.

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That's funny.

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This is a new one, boris Epstein.

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He's finally been indicted in a jurisdiction for his role in the fake elector plot.

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I was wondering when someone was going to get around to him.

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Yeah, when I saw his name and it was like, wow, okay, I thought he had fell into the background, but no, no, uh, jenna ellis managed to make her way into this indictment.

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Uh, michael roman, who was key in coordinating with the fake electors.

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He's also been indicted here, as he was in georgia.

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Uh, kelly ward, which is the former head of the republican party love that for her yeah, she.

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She was irate, uh, a couple of years ago about people not being locked up for cheating to steal the 2020 election.

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Here we go, baby here we are.

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Kelly ward is, she is a piece of work.

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That woman is something else and she is, she is.

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She's gonna die on that hill, you know happy for her.

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She got her wish.

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They they're locking them up, kelly, as you suggested.

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And then my personal favorite of all the people indicted in arizona over the course of the past week, here is christina bob.

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Yeah, so this is why.

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This is why christina.

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She's no longer representing trump.

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He had to put some distance there well, actually it's funny you say that head of election integrity well, darn it, you beat me to the joke.

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yes, the, the new head of the election integrity at the rnc has been indicted for a lack of integrity from cheating in the 2020 election.

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No, but the reason why she had to get the boot from Trump's legal team, carol, is because, well, do you remember Evan Corcoran?

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By any chance, does that name sound familiar to you?

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Well, that was one of Trump's lawyers in the classified documents case in Florida, and he had to get the boot from trump's legal team because he got crime fraud accepted, because they signed off on those documents saying that all of the classified documents have been returned to the fbi voluntarily.

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And then when, like the fbi, raided mar-a-lago and they were like, oh damn, here go these documents.

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You told a lie bro make attorneys, get attorneys yes, well, uh well, christina bob was one of the well, she was the lawyer who signed off on the document as well.

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She ended that envelope over like yeah, so yeah, she was in the crosshairs of the department of justice for quite a while here, and at the time I just like what it's.

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How long has it been?

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Has it been a year and a half?

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It's been a long time.

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It was August.

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Yeah, it was August.

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Like uh, what 2022?

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October.

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Yeah, I think in October was when we got news of this arrangement where, um, uh, corcoran didn't want to put his name on that and then Christina Bob did, or maybe it was the other way.

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Look, it's all right, it's been a long time, a long time ago.

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My memory is fading slightly, I have to look that up, but one of them put their names on that and I was like, oh, the second they did that.

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Huh, somebody's about to get their own lawyers.

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And here we are, christina bob getting getting indicted for something totally separate, because that's how many crimes you commit when you're trump's lawyer but you know what's so crazy about christina bob and this is why I think she's like a hair smarter than uh is that, yes, is because christina, she had them like signed like that that she wouldn't be like held accountable like are you sure?

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Are you sure I'm signing for this?

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I'm giving this over there, everything's copacetic.

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She put a caveat in the language that said, to the best of my knowledge, as opposed to.

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We guarantee that all the documents have been yes and wording is everything, and that was a smart move on her, and then she just kind of fell into the background.

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It's like I'm just going to do news.

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Well, yeah, I mean, isn't that?

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I think that's how she got the job right her on newsmax rbn.

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Uh, one of those one of those.

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One of those.

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Okay, here's the deal audience.

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All right, so you know christina bob and you know alina haba.

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How do you tell them apart?

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Right, and that's like.

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That is the game we're constantly playing.

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But, like, of course, my favorite.

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One of them has been indicted in in Arizona.

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Totally and find a million dollars.

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But no, that's the other one, that's.

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Alina Habba.

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Yeah, so my favorite Alina Habba.

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fun fact is the detail that, like initially, she was representing parking garages yeah and that and that level of legal expertise is how she ended up losing trump half a billion dollars well, don't forget that she had to pay like twenty thirty thousand dollars to her only black employee at the law firm for throwing the n-word around in her office so she was perfect for the trump legal team and she also had to pay that one million dollar settlement.

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Um for well, that that bogus and uh, that bogus lawsuit against hillary clinton against hillary and pete schrock and a number of other people, where the judge not only threw that out but was like, hey man, this was ridiculous, pay up guys, but yeah.

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So I'd just like to point out how insane it is.

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Just the number of lawyers that have worked for Trump, that have been indicted over the course of these past, what's it been?

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almost 10 years now eight, nine years it's just insane and I just I can't believe only hearing about the ones that haven't fallen outside the statute of limitations right, but how many of the lawyers like uh takapina, who actually had a pretty prestigious career, like he represented Jay-Z, he represented all of these like celebrities and stuff who have literally willingly put their careers and reputations on the line to get involved into Trump's legal mess?

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And Takapina, like when the Stormy daniel story first broke, he was like oh yeah, this is bad for him, like this is completely different than the guy takes up his case, like the cognitive dissonance and how they're short-term, it's.

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It's freaking insane and it's like wow yeah, and they have to forget everything they previously said, for the grift is crazy yeah, like, and that they have said these things on camera, on tape, in interviews, and then, literally a year later, and they're like the complete opposite and there's no pushback from maga, no pushback from as if that never existed, knowing that this evidence and that this confirmation and backing up is out there.

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And they have no, they just go on like okay yeah, they all become bill barr.

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Even bill barr is like trump should be, no, be nowhere near the white house.

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And then they're like all right, well, are you going to vote for them?

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Yes, what?

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Because not only do they.

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After they get in trouble they're like well, now I'm going to not support them.

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And then they slink back eventually to always it's, it's just wild.

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Well, you know what, though that that kind of worries me, because where they were, like a year or two ago and like during the january 6th investigation and the hearings and everything and the things that they were saying.

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So, for those that are backtracking especially someone like bill barr, who is very shrewd, he's not a dumb ass um, he's not dumb by any means, but it lends me to believe that they feel like there is a real chance that Trump will be in the White House.

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Yeah, and they are trying to see why and that that worries me because I'm wondering.

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And they're scared that he's going to know that we don't know.

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They're scared that he's going to get presidential immunity and have them assassinated.

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And if only there was some way to not vote for him.

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Well, that's what.

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Joe Biden's for.

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I think.

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But I think that that is something that we should pay more attention to, that.

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The people that are kind of turning on their heels and backtracking a little bit.

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Why are they doing it Like, is there something that they're privy to that we're not?

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Is there something that they know?

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They're worried he might win?

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So okay, look, once it became fairly obvious that he was going to wrap up the Republican nomination, it's basically a coin flip for him to become president.

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They don't need to know.

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Anything is in the works about the potential for him winning he's the nominee.

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He's got a shot in the works.

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About the potential for him winning he's the nominee, he's got a shot.

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So everybody has to cya, as you so eloquently put it, and and get their ducks in a row and and get back on the bandwagon.

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Because look and we talk about this a couple of times but one of the first things hitler did when he came to power, it wasn't taking out opponents from the other party, it was cleaning house in his own party exactly, that's exactly it, the brown shirts was right there and they helped him get elected.

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And then, as soon as he had power or get appointed, and as soon as he had power, he went and got them brown shirts up out of there because they were a threat to his power and then he went on from there.

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Um so, and they they're his brown shirts.

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So one of the things about these indictments in Arizona is elections have consequences, because I know a lot of people are like man.

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It's awfully late in the game for Arizona to be in indicted in the fake electors investigation didn't start until 2023 because the Arizona attorney general prior to Chris Mays was a Republican who said I ain't going to look into this.

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So once Chris Mays won, she was like all right, sure, my office will look into this, we'll do our due diligence.

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And in a year and a half what month is this?

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And less than a year and a half what month is this?

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And less than a year and a half, less than 18 months she got indictments out the door and ready to go.

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Now a lot of people are going to ask hey, if she indicted all these, you know, fake electors and the co-conspirators higher up the chain, why didn't she indict trump?

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And I have a theory on that, and my theory is because it's so close to the Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity and whatever the decision is, the way the arguments, the way the decision will be worded about, you know what is considered immune acts or presidential acts and what is considered private uh, she'll be able to tailor her indictment in a way that can navigate, uh, the supreme court's decision on presidential immunity so that indictment still stands, or at least that's my theory on it.

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Because, like, if you're indicting alina haba and john Eastman and Mike Roman, these people were right there with Trump, working with Trump, and you have enough like Trump is literally an unindicted co-conspirator any indictment.

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The only reason you're holding off on that, obviously for the well, obviously because indicting him could create some delay, given the Supreme Court decision, but also you want your indictment to stick right yeah, well, yeah, I mean a prosecutor, a DA.

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They're going to take cases.

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They know they can win like they're not in the business of like frivolously filing you know cases and and going after people.

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It's like, okay, I know I can win this, or they don't think they can win.

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Okay, we didn't have enough evidence.

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I mean that's kind of the the.

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This was kind of the argument the justice department used in the supreme court that that prosecutors don't do that.

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They're like this yeah, basically like there's so many protections in the legal system that even for a rogue prosecutor it'd be difficult to go after a former president.

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But no, the the walking into a bar Joe Carroll, that would be a former president, a pecker and a porn star.

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Walk into a bar.

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Former president, a pecker and a porn star walking to a bar yeah.

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Anyway.

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Yeah, I just think that, like so, part of the reason Jack Smith didn't invite invite didn't indict any of Trump's co-conspirators in the.

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January 6th, or I guess the greater plot to seal the 2020 election is because, if he had done so, with with all of the numerous co-defendants, uh, all these delays would have affected that as well and and made it nigh impossible, even without the Supreme court, uh, to get this case to take.

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We'll get this trial to take place before the election.

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Well, arizona did the opposite, right?

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They left out Trump in order to get this trial the rest of the it's off the ground because if you indict trump then that's automatically going to end in a delay and then you won't get to hold any of these people responsible.

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But I guess another factor, another factor that is important about this indictment in arizona is these state charges.

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They can't be pardoned.

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So they're going to have a lot of incentive to cooperate because even if trump wins, he's not going to be able to pardon them, like if he gets indicted in arizona.

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Sure he'll use the powers of the federal government to stay out of jail or whatever, but the rest of these dudes they shit out of luck.

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Um and trump can't save them.

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So we're gonna have the opportunity for, you know, trump's lawyers to flip mike roman to flip, although I guess um, given his luck with with the georgia prosecution in in making in an investigation into the investigator, maybe he's got a shot of trying to hold out for hope there.

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But rudy giuliani, he's about to be broke.

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He's not going to have any opportunity to really defend himself with a you know, high-powered legal firm here.

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And mark meadows, like you know, he almost skated with jack smith because it appears as jack's, as though jack smith has some kind of cooperation agreement with him or at least on prosecution in in exchange for some of his testimony.

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But now he's not, he's not.

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But now he's not going to skate, he's going to have to sign a prosecution agreement in Arizona to stay out of jail.

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He just has to.

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Epstein, he, I'm glad he's going to jail, I just like his answer.

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I'm tired of seeing his face.

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I'm tired of seeing him.

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Well, I guess he hasn't been doing the rounds on TV here lately, but I'm glad prosecutors are finally going after some of the higher ups.

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I'm glad we're seeing consequences.

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I know it took a while but, as I told y'all like, just hang in there, consequences are coming.

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You should have listened to your boy, because I told you it was going to get here.

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I told look, I hate to be the hate to be hillary clinton, where I'm right about everything.

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But I talked about the fake electors eventually being subject to indictment by all these states before we ever had a jack smith indictment of trump for january 6th.

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But here we are.

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Here we are that's making fun of my.

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Oh wait, you can all see yes it's a visual medium, carol.

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It's no longer an audio only podcast.

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I had to put on pants we weren't going to say it out loud, but yes, carol showed up for the podcast.

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In post 2020 fashion sans pants, it's really hot.

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We don't have AC in alright.

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What is the female analog for Jeffrey alright?

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Jessica Tubin I was going to say.

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Jeffrey, all right, jessica Toobin, yeah.

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I was going to say Jennifer, but Jessica.

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Okay, jeff, I wasn't pleasuring myself.

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I'm just not wearing pants.

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Well, that's unfortunate, don't you think that's what our audience signed up for?

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All right, so we've got a few, a couple of lighter stories, although they're equally as frustrating as some of the previous developments here, with the new york times journalist, uh eli stokels, detailing a piece that the paper's editor, ag salzberger, and other top brass directed the outlet to purposefully cover, biden in a negative light because he is yet to sit down for an exclusive interview with the New York Times during his administration.

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Isn't it cute how they're like willing to help end democracy over a little personal.

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I am not surprised at all.

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The New York Times has been a fascist enabling adjacent media outlet since the fricking thirties, maybe even before that, but the thirties is since I know of.

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It's a it's been up and down.

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Friend of democracy.

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I mean I wouldn't go that far, but they, they have their moments where you, I mean, there are journalists that I do like, who do really good editorials and whatnot, so I'm not going to throw them out with the bathwater with the whole freaking paper.

00:19:39.467 --> 00:19:42.930
You know they're the shining lights in that.

00:19:42.930 --> 00:19:45.989
You know, just like the issues that we have with.

00:19:45.989 --> 00:20:05.670
You know Katie Turr and Kristen Welker on MSNBC, but then we have Nicole Wallace and then we have Rachel Maddow, so it's separating that, however, but there Look, we've been talking about this for years now.

00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:22.122
There's something wrong with the New York Times and it's so obvious it's been so obvious here for at least three years that there's a whole new york times pitch bot account whose entire existence is just making fun of the headlines from the new york times.

00:20:22.122 --> 00:20:27.260
And it's so bad that some of the headlines he's like damn, I wish I had come out with that.

00:20:27.260 --> 00:20:27.882
They beat me.

00:20:27.882 --> 00:20:45.487
The pitch bot is like the new york times beat me to satire, except it's real, like one of the, and one of the worst examples is is the one where it was like um, you know two imperfect candidates on abortion, and we're talking about biden and trump.

00:20:45.487 --> 00:20:52.324
Dude, biden is trying to get bring more access to abortion to women in the united states.

00:20:52.324 --> 00:20:55.491
Trump is the one who appointed them up, took it away.

00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:12.930
Tommy Topherville held up military appointments forever because of the Biden administration's policies protecting reproductive health care for women in the military.

00:21:12.930 --> 00:21:14.182
So what?

00:21:14.182 --> 00:21:16.931
The F word?

00:21:17.191 --> 00:21:33.546
Yes, word yes, doesn't drive you crazy and just this constant equating of like or equivocating between, yes, the insane person on the one hand, we don't like the way joe biden eats ice cream, but on the other, trump stage like wait, was it?

00:21:33.987 --> 00:21:35.347
a million times.

00:21:35.347 --> 00:21:38.412
Remember, after what was it that had happened in there?

00:21:38.412 --> 00:21:42.476
Like Hawking Jeffries lied, and this was after.

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And he was like oh, when, oh, when Mike Johnson Acquiesce that's like the best word that I can say like for him to funding for Ukraine.

00:21:52.613 --> 00:21:59.465
And then it was like, oh, that he was some kind of freaking hero.

00:21:59.465 --> 00:22:04.923
And then they were like, oh, hawking jeffries um, asked if he had the votes and he lied and it's like this is what you're going with.

00:22:04.923 --> 00:22:10.243
No, that was new york times and it was like this is yeah yes, they basically headlined that.

00:22:10.284 --> 00:22:13.160
yeah, they painted him out as like fdr or something and I was like what?

00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:16.462
The dude who's been blocking the a the entire, the entire time?

00:22:16.462 --> 00:22:19.704
He's now like, okay, get out of here with this.

00:22:19.704 --> 00:22:33.395
But yes, and look, the problem is is that we all know that something was wrong and then to have someone come out on the record and confirm it, just it makes it all the more embarrassing.

00:22:33.395 --> 00:22:47.282
I guess it'd been better off if they had just admitted it from the get-go, but the fact that they're like again, our democracy is on the line and they're choosing to ignore the terrorist who's threatened to have them killed should he ever get back in the office?

00:22:47.903 --> 00:23:24.651
and to just do this over a grudge because president biden hadn't sent down for interviews bananas, and then I can't imagine how damn bad an interview like seriously no, how, how damn I can't like well, maybe if they prove that no, I mean no one can prove enough loyalty to him but maybe if they prove that they're not going to cover him in any way, that um scrutinizes him or says negative things about him, they will completely take out of context and twist everything that he says for their own purposes, then maybe he will sit down for an interview with you.

00:23:24.651 --> 00:23:29.422
I mean, it seems like they're bending over backwards for it, Okay.

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I was going to put a finger, but I'm not.

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No, please don't.

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This is not the time or the place.

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But can you imagine I'm not.

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Can you imagine how damn bad the new york times must have been when by you showed up for the interview on the stern show?

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I bet they was like dog right in in new york he showed up to new york, but not for you not

00:23:49.905 --> 00:24:01.744
for you guys, and then, of course, I think that's awesome because I've been a stern fan for a really really long time and his interviews are pretty awesome and I think it's great that pota sat down with howard um.

00:24:01.744 --> 00:24:09.627
Howard is really good with um, just just getting to the nitty-gritty and you know people love to just like they do with with biden.

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They're like, oh well, he said this will be a racial jungle.

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I was like you got anything like more recent than 40 years ago.

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Can we tackle that real?

00:24:16.732 --> 00:24:17.101
Can I?

00:24:17.101 --> 00:24:26.634
Can I dispose of that nonsense quickly, Like if you go back and read the entirety of what Biden was saying when he made the racial jungle comment?

00:24:26.634 --> 00:24:38.288
That wasn't a comment about black people, that was a comment about white people being, you know, white kids in some of these schools and these white teachers being unable to handle desegregation.

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That that was it.

00:24:40.213 --> 00:24:45.067
It was like he don't trust white people to handle this correctly he was right not to trust y'all.

00:24:45.067 --> 00:24:46.450
No, offense white people you.

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You do, okay, every rare occasion, but at the time no, and biden was absolutely right about, because again we had to have the national guard show up to let these kids in the school in some instances, but that also goes to the conversation that we had when we were talking about the 94 crime bill and then you were like no, my parents were all for it because they were like this crime is and 70 percent of the Congressional Black Caucus was behind it, because they were like we need to do something.

00:25:13.553 --> 00:25:14.984
And it was him listening to.

00:25:14.984 --> 00:25:23.770
So it was like taking out of the context and it made me look back at my own opinion and looking into it to see where your parents were coming from.

00:25:24.071 --> 00:25:29.887
Oh yeah, so my parents didn't really talk about politics much in the nineties like that, or at least not with me present.

00:25:29.887 --> 00:25:32.760
But one of the things that did come up was that crime bill Cause.

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Like you know my mother, my grandmother they were like, yeah, clean up our streets.

00:25:37.923 --> 00:25:39.144
Yeah, yeah I mean.

00:25:39.183 --> 00:25:40.845
Another thing like that came up too.

00:25:40.845 --> 00:25:49.469
This is totally off topic, but like the health care that the Clinton Hillary Clinton was working towards, like they were in favor of that too.

00:25:49.469 --> 00:25:57.632
But look, the idea that that was a handout, like once you start talking in terms of handout, like that killed momentum for that thing.

00:25:57.632 --> 00:25:59.093
But yeah, but no.

00:25:59.093 --> 00:26:00.634
Back to Stern and the interview.

00:26:00.634 --> 00:26:01.074
It was.

00:26:01.074 --> 00:26:10.999
It was fairly I found it to be fairly compelling and a lot of people on the right, I'm sure, are going to make comments about how it was a softball interview for Biden.

00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:30.602
Well, stern also gave a softball interview to Trump, where trump said a bunch of raunchy and embarrassing things and I listened to those interviews because I have been, you know, a fan for a long time and so those interviews I distinctly remember I'd been, I would listen, how long ago was it?

00:26:30.602 --> 00:26:39.722
93 oh, was he a candidate for president at the time yeah this was before that yeah, it was prior to, because he was doing.

00:26:40.124 --> 00:26:41.909
He was doing a lot of rounds on the interviews.

00:26:41.909 --> 00:26:44.703
This is when oprah was still on the air and he was going funny.

00:26:44.743 --> 00:26:57.583
How willing he was to not incriminate himself because saying nasty things about your daughter isn't illegal, but like how willing he is to say gross things to impress when people laugh at what you say.

00:26:57.603 --> 00:27:04.182
Then you're like wow, what I said must have been good, you know.

00:27:04.182 --> 00:27:05.324
Yeah, well, that was the thing.

00:27:05.565 --> 00:27:15.041
Yes, stern has this way of stringing you along and making it feel as though you like you just being welcomed into the community when really what you're doing is outing yourself.

00:27:15.041 --> 00:27:21.824
Um, I just did either of you listen to the stern interview with hillary clinton when she was running for office?

00:27:22.164 --> 00:27:24.554
no, possibly I didn't listen to.

00:27:24.554 --> 00:27:25.135
I don't think.

00:27:25.175 --> 00:27:31.920
I remember that was a thousand years ago, man I, I gotta tell you 2016 that, yes, that was like multiple lifetimes ago.

00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:39.244
Audience, I don't know how you feel about this, but I feel like post 2020, um, it's like I really don't even know how to.

00:27:39.244 --> 00:27:40.276
It's like an episode.

00:27:40.276 --> 00:27:42.079
It's like the first season of true detective.

00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.106
It's like time is a flat circle.

00:27:45.106 --> 00:27:55.059
It's just a whole meaningless, meaningless circle of events and it just kind of blurs together and blends together no, I am sad yes.

00:27:55.121 --> 00:28:03.859
And then the next thing you know, uh, we're, we're, we're up for the next trump biden election, and just very depressing.

00:28:03.859 --> 00:28:13.144
But biden also had a wonderful outing at the white house correspondence dinner uh if so, if you had.

00:28:13.365 --> 00:28:25.271
You've got a range of biden performances here over the past month or so with the state of the union where he was fiery, righteous, indignatious or righteous indignation, biden, uh.

00:28:25.271 --> 00:28:31.789
And you've got the stern interview where he was heartfelt and thoughtful and emotional.

00:28:31.789 --> 00:28:36.821
And then you've got the white house correspondence dinner where he was boom, boom, boom.

00:28:36.821 --> 00:28:37.984
Yes where he was.

00:28:38.346 --> 00:28:56.467
It was a little bit of light-hearted but yet dark, brandon right and, and you know what, and I, and I absolutely love it and I have zero doubt that potus knows we're in the we're in the stretch now, like we're.

00:28:56.826 --> 00:29:11.276
We're in, like you know I don't want to be program territory oh yeah we are moving, like we are moving in that direction and the stakes are so high and he is really stepping up and on it.

00:29:11.276 --> 00:29:34.396
And I I think that maybe in the beginning, in the first you know, maybe one, two years of uh biden's administration that he was really thinking in the old school ways of still reaching across the aisle when he was able to negotiate and make things happen with people that didn't agree with him, before realizing like, oh, no, part of that was just Democrats had the House.

00:29:34.758 --> 00:29:49.727
So yeah but, but still, just as the, the rhetoric has amped up, ramped up, and just realizing that this is now or never and I, I have to abandon that.

00:29:49.767 --> 00:30:00.046
But he can't say it yeah, well, I mean, it's campaign mode, so like the gloves are off and he's taking shots at everybody but I think he also can't say it out loud you know what I mean.

00:30:00.046 --> 00:30:01.721
Like he still has to appear.

00:30:01.721 --> 00:30:03.175
Dude.

00:30:03.175 --> 00:30:12.931
He got in front of the press at the correspondence dinner and he was like a lot of people are wondering of what's going on in Congress's political theater.

00:30:12.931 --> 00:30:19.061
And of course that can't be the case, because if this was a theater, they'd have thrown lauren bobert out a long time ago, do?

00:30:19.082 --> 00:30:31.835
you know, how like, do you know how in tune you have to be with, like, the level of shade that you are throwing out there to pull off that joke in front of a bunch of journalists?

00:30:31.835 --> 00:30:39.951
And that is where biden is, where he's making handjob jokes dark, dark brandon man, dark brandon for the win.

00:30:40.633 --> 00:30:53.817
And and he still comes off classy when he says, even though it would say beyond levels, but he still, he comes off and it's so smooth.

00:30:53.837 --> 00:31:08.347
Yeah, it's one of the things that trump doesn't have right, like because trump is always so over the top and like there's never any subtlety and unless it's like trump trying to, you know, insinuate that people should result resort to violence.

00:31:08.347 --> 00:31:10.976
But yeah, uh, just yeah, yet another difference.

00:31:10.976 --> 00:31:12.821
And also biden's willing to laugh at himself.

00:31:12.821 --> 00:31:14.046
You ain't never seen trump laugh.

00:31:15.219 --> 00:31:20.739
Never seen him laugh, uh one time I can't, can't picture it, no, and he damn sure ain't about to laugh at himself.

00:31:20.739 --> 00:31:27.382
And that's why Obama, at the White House correspondent's dinner roasting Trump, set him on fire.

00:31:27.382 --> 00:31:32.708
He's been having a grudge since Obama ever since which.

00:31:32.708 --> 00:31:46.474
Yeah, that dinner was fun, biden was amazing and then so you got your your three variations of Biden here lately, and I'm glad that he's finally get some attention in the media.

00:31:46.474 --> 00:31:48.862
He does events and he talks in.

00:31:48.862 --> 00:31:50.165
You know he does.

00:31:50.165 --> 00:31:56.875
I mean, I guess I haven't seen him do a press conference in a while, but he's made some addresses to the media and I just don't get any coverage.

00:31:56.875 --> 00:32:02.048
And now he's finally breaking through and this is his correspondence dinner.

00:32:11.576 --> 00:32:11.938
This was like.

00:32:11.938 --> 00:32:15.875
I think this is one of the best, probably since Obama's like this is one of the most that stood out.

00:32:15.875 --> 00:32:19.455
As far as the correspondence dinner goes, then again, of course, trump never participated, because no?

00:32:19.455 --> 00:32:20.618
And then 2021?

00:32:20.638 --> 00:32:23.424
we're like man we're scared, we're gonna die.

00:32:23.424 --> 00:32:25.978
And then 22, and he too still had a little bit of hangover.

00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:28.744
And then we did have a whole pandemic.

00:32:28.744 --> 00:32:31.050
So right that was.

00:32:31.050 --> 00:32:32.895
But yeah, but it was.

00:32:32.895 --> 00:32:36.604
It was kind of refreshing to kind of see like it was.

00:32:36.604 --> 00:32:54.797
It was ribbing, you know it's a roast, but it was also fun and light-hearted and encompassed all of those things that kind of just remind us of what, bringing you know, dignity and fun back to the white house and someone who isn't just indecency.

00:32:54.797 --> 00:32:57.440
You know what I'm gonna kill you because you told a joke about me.

00:32:57.520 --> 00:33:11.281
Yes, like that's not where we are right now I mean colin jost actually made a joke about how like it was nice and that they could basically congregate together and tell some jokes and no one threatened to kill another person afterwards.

00:33:11.342 --> 00:33:15.836
Exactly, it's always nice when no one is threatened to be murdered, like that's.

00:33:15.836 --> 00:33:16.896
It's always a good thing.

00:33:16.896 --> 00:33:31.125
But it was, yeah, but it just reminded us of whoever was in the Oval Office and you know, the White House Correspondents Dinner was just something that was like, look look forward to that's.

00:33:31.125 --> 00:33:38.105
Like you know, this is going to be like when they used to do the Comedy Central Rose you know kind of it was like, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to laugh at myself, I'm going central rose, you know.

00:33:38.125 --> 00:33:44.356
Kind of it's like, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna laugh at myself, I'm gonna, you know, we're gonna throw some barbs and it's all in good fun and whatever and it's gonna be a good night.

00:33:44.356 --> 00:33:45.019
But it was just.

00:33:45.019 --> 00:33:51.915
It was just a nice fun night and just to see everybody participating.

00:33:51.915 --> 00:33:56.259
And you know, colin jones like and has telling his his story.

00:33:56.259 --> 00:34:10.891
So it engulfed so many things that have been missing for the past however many years that Trump has invaded our space.

00:34:11.534 --> 00:34:11.655
Right.

00:34:11.655 --> 00:34:29.186
Well, it's funny you bring that part up to like the Trump invading our space because someone on MSNBC I think they were starting to come to grips with where the stakes are, because they were like, hey man, has anyone realized that, depending on how things go in November, this might be the last White House Correspondents Dinner we ever have?

00:34:29.186 --> 00:34:40.018
Obviously, because Trump, if he gets reelected, he's going to kill the White House Correspondents Dinner, and I don't mean he's going to cancel it, I mean he's going to kill them all.

00:34:40.038 --> 00:34:42.545
Carol, it's time for when you were talking about the search and destroy.

00:34:42.545 --> 00:34:43.996
I'm sorry, what did you call it before?

00:34:44.557 --> 00:34:44.938
The who.

00:34:45.900 --> 00:34:50.688
Their tactic of taking articles out of circulation.

00:34:51.054 --> 00:34:51.817
Oh, catch and kill.

00:34:51.817 --> 00:34:54.184
Yeah, he's going to catch and kill the White House Correspondents.

00:34:54.615 --> 00:35:00.204
I kept thinking hopefully we're not going to look back and say like remember when catch and kill was just an expression.

00:35:04.456 --> 00:35:06.182
Oh damn girl you know him Okay.

00:35:06.182 --> 00:35:11.583
Well, dictator for a day, and then he's going to catch and kill all of us.

00:35:11.583 --> 00:35:13.583
But yes, we're on to our favorite segment.

00:35:13.583 --> 00:35:20.621
I would imagine it is time for our shithole of the week award and I have the perfect nominee.

00:35:20.621 --> 00:35:22.153
I know there's going to be no dispute.

00:35:23.016 --> 00:35:25.143
I feel like I'm going to agree with you Go ahead.

00:35:25.405 --> 00:35:46.608
Yes, in this arena, here so Trump vice presidential hopeful Kristi Noem wrote in her book details of how she took her dog out to hunt and it was ineffective, like a 14 year old little puppy basically, and she didn't like it and she ended up basically shooting it in the face.

00:35:46.608 --> 00:35:52.186
Yes, the internet was ablaze can I do my middle?

00:35:52.226 --> 00:35:58.726
fingers because unanimous you know all of them and my toes are doing it right now.

00:35:58.766 --> 00:36:09.786
You just can't see it I'm mad enough that people who return pets yes, don't even bring your dog back to the shelter.

00:36:09.865 --> 00:36:19.878
Yes, like all those people went out during 2020 and got dogs, and stuff and then, when they went back to work in 2021, they just abandoned their pets, yeah very, very disheartening.

00:36:19.878 --> 00:36:21.282
No, but the internet was a blade for life.

00:36:21.302 --> 00:36:21.862
That's your family.

00:36:21.862 --> 00:36:24.467
And then, when they went back to work in 2021, they just abandoned their pets.

00:36:24.547 --> 00:36:26.150
Yeah, Very, very disheartening.

00:36:26.150 --> 00:36:27.293
No, but the internet was a blade for life.

00:36:27.293 --> 00:36:28.315
That's your family, a part of your family.

00:36:28.315 --> 00:36:47.722
I mean, you know, different people have different relationships with animals, but I don't think anyone is at a point where they're just going to blast their dog with a shotgun or a rifle or something I'm just saying you don't get an animal if you're not willing to have it through its life, unless you're breeding it for livestock, and that's a different thing, just no, but yes.

00:36:47.842 --> 00:36:57.458
Just like the internet lit her up, and rightfully so, her chances of being vice president or at least running mate for trump are now shot like her dog, and of course.

00:36:57.478 --> 00:36:59.742
What about her chances for being a human fucking being?

00:36:59.742 --> 00:37:00.726
I'm sorry I said that.

00:37:01.327 --> 00:37:04.916
Well, she she was out of that contest a long time ago.

00:37:04.916 --> 00:37:08.202
Uh, but again, as is for this is trump.

00:37:08.242 --> 00:37:09.606
Really gonna hold that against her?

00:37:09.606 --> 00:37:10.795
Or just because she's a woman?

00:37:11.336 --> 00:37:17.300
uh no, because she's a weirdo and she because he's and because she's good looking, and you know he's all about aesthetics.

00:37:17.300 --> 00:37:23.063
So I really am not convinced that everyone is saying, oh, her career is over, her career is over.

00:37:23.063 --> 00:37:36.565
I'm not convinced of that, like I haven't seen any proof that her career is going to be over and if he wins, like idiots, will flourish everywhere in the country I don't know.

00:37:36.625 --> 00:37:37.106
It's just weird.

00:37:37.106 --> 00:37:41.224
A bunch of pro lifers are like, all right, great, let's shoot my dog, uh.

00:37:41.224 --> 00:37:44.175
But no, as per the usual, hillary clinton was right about everything.

00:37:44.175 --> 00:38:02.398
As she said previously in 2016, you can't vote for someone that you wouldn't trust with your dog, and with that, we hereby uh award uh christy noam with the shithole of the Week Award and, for anyone who's new to the podcast listening to this, like the Shithole of the Week.

00:38:02.398 --> 00:38:12.661
We adopted that terminology not to be crass, but it is specifically in reference to Trump's comments about African countries that he made off the record.

00:38:13.875 --> 00:38:21.306
So you know, we kind of, and then again publicly at a televised convention.

00:38:21.768 --> 00:38:22.349
Yeah, fair enough.

00:38:23.657 --> 00:38:25.871
He has since made those comments publicly.

00:38:26.273 --> 00:38:33.880
Right, we co-opted the word, and then we hand out a trophy to the worst person in politics of the week or it doesn't necessarily have to be politics.

00:38:34.061 --> 00:38:37.597
Don't be jealous If you think the name is crass.

00:38:37.597 --> 00:38:42.846
You should see what the trophy is made of exactly all right.

00:38:42.925 --> 00:38:45.731
Closing thoughts kids who wants to volunteer to go first?

00:38:46.579 --> 00:38:47.221
I'll do it this time.

00:38:47.221 --> 00:38:53.940
You can see my enthusiasm when I talk about voter registration register to vote.

00:38:53.940 --> 00:38:55.744
Bother other people to register to vote.

00:38:55.744 --> 00:39:04.465
Send them to me and be like crazy chick wants you to vote and um, but what would be crazy is not registering to vote now.

00:39:04.465 --> 00:39:05.789
Other things you can do.

00:39:05.789 --> 00:39:07.619
I've I've enjoyed writing postcards.

00:39:07.619 --> 00:39:11.547
Set a reasonable goal for yourself and send a few a day.

00:39:11.547 --> 00:39:11.996
Um.

00:39:11.996 --> 00:39:15.585
Check out postcards to votersorg.

00:39:15.585 --> 00:39:16.847
Um, that's what I got for now.

00:39:16.847 --> 00:39:18.813
Look, I'm pro postcards to votersorg.

00:39:18.813 --> 00:39:19.655
That's what I got for now.

00:39:20.297 --> 00:39:25.335
Look, I'm pro postcards he made me, come straight from the airport to the pod and he's like.

00:39:25.335 --> 00:39:27.643
By the way, we're going to be on video, oh man.

00:39:28.235 --> 00:39:33.353
She's like literally fresh off vacation, so we'll give her, we'll give Carol, a break today, all right.

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But no, I'm excited about the postcard things, cause you know, look, it's the little personal touches, when you reach out to potential voters to get them to engage with the process, that makes all the difference.

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So kudos to anyone who takes the time out of their day to do the hard work of engaging with potential voters.

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All right, ty.

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Closing thoughts go.

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We really need to amplify Project 2025.

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I've been thinking more and more and more about this all the time.

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It is not getting any coverage, it is not getting this threat and where we are right now and what we are facing is and nobody is safe is safe.

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Nobody is safe Because if you were to eradicate all the brown people, the black people that you don't like, who's going to be next?

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Because these people aren't driven by a certain color.

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They're driven by their hate and they're driven by their cruelty, so they will always be somebody that they want to denigrate, that they want to marginalize, that they want to subjugate.

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Period, and it's not going to end.

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It's not going to end with women, it's not going to end with African-Americans, it's not going to end with our black, brown, yellow sisters and brothers, yellow sisters and brothers.

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There is no end in sight because their hate has no end.

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They are fueled by it, they are driven by it and they will do whatever is necessary to attempt to satiate their desire to hurt other people.

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And we need to.

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Even if they don't listen, I don't care, but we still need to put it out there what 2025 is about, what Project 2025 is aiming for.

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Period, and that's just my piece.

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All right, as for me?

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Um, again, as for the usual.

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We've had a a recent primary election here, last tuesday.

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Biden again is dominating.

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Uh, trump is again underperforming.

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He's losing hundreds of thousands of votes to nikki haley even though she's long been out of the race here.

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Uh, just trump again.

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Poor showing after poor showing in every single state here for the I I don't know, since the beginning of the primaries.

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Yet on on on sunday here, cnn dropped this poll supposedly showing biden losing by a massive, a massive gulf to trump, somehow, even though biden's been leading in the polls here for the last few weeks, or I guess, to be more specific, he's been tied, if not leading, in a number of polls.

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And then we get this crazy outlier where it's 49 trump, 43 biden.

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Very suspicious here how these media outlets only tend to cover these polls when they're not favorable, favorable of joe biden.

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Because, admit it, over the past couple of weeks, probably more than a month, have you seen any media outlet anywhere mention a presidential poll?

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No, you haven't.

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You know why?

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Because biden was ahead, but the second that it gets a little too close for comfort in terms of biden having a runaway victory, they got to put out some information to make it seem as though it's closer than it actually is, because that is how they keep you hooked.

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And the unfortunate thing about the media doing this is it gives a permission structure to people who normally wouldn't vote for trump if they thought he was absolutely going to lose, to try and show up for some enthusiasm and get him over the edge.

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It's just, and also it suppresses votes on the other side.

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If people think Trump is bound to win, they're not going to show up and vote for Biden when, at the end of the day, like your vote absolutely truly matters.

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Of course, biden won in terms of the popular vote in the landslide in 2020, but in swing states there, it was basically a couple hundred thousand votes.

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There was a difference between you know this Biden administration, where he's been an extraordinarily productive and good president, versus a second Trump term, which would have been the end of our democracy.

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And it's going to be the same thing in this November, where we need every single person to show up and vote, otherwise we could potentially be losing our democracy and our freedom.

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And and even if you're like say you're like the average white person in a blue state, you think you're going to be safe?

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No, you're not, because trump is going to engage in all kinds of illicit behavior to inflict harm to numerous states, regardless of whether they're red or blue.

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You're not going to be safe.

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And, of course, one of the first things is going to go is access to abortion.

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So even if you're a blue state, you're going to get a national abortion ban.

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You know your access to health care, if you're a woman, is going to be poof gone.

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So you're going to become a victim to his tyranny too.

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So keep that in mind.

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But again, with these polls, they put them out to kind of sway your opinions and and diminish your enthusiasm.

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Don't fall for that nonsense.

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Trump is, as we're seeing, has a number of obstacles when it comes to even coming close in this election.

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We haven't even finished his criminal trial and he's got numerous other criminal trials to go.

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Don't let the stuff get you down.

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Don't fall victim to this.

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Just keep it going.

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Do the work, try and get people to turn out to vote, and we can make sure we bring this thing home in November.

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And that concludes this episode of Pardon the Interaction.